That Josh Hamilton was the biggest and best story in baseball. It makes me sick as a fan that the Reds would consider trading away this guy–for any reason. This is not a player you get rid of. The ceiling hasn’t been this high on a player the Reds have had in my lifetime. That said, something tells me something is terribly wrong behind closed doors that we all do not know about, or Wayne Krivsky is a moron dressed up as a baseball man.
I fear the latter.
It’s been too long since it’s been thrown around here in hogger land. It’s time to see what the net is saying about baseball, and of course that big time Mitchell report:
*By the way, I’m shocked that the Boone brothers escaped the list. For now.
- Cincinnati Reds blogger John Fay reacts. The Reds had no idea Mike Stanton was going to get fingered. (Cincinnati Enquirer)
- View many of the key pages in the Mitchell report. (Deadspin)
- The all snubbed Mitchell Report team. (Bugs and Cranks)
- Now that the names are out, some good questions exist. (The Big Lead)
- The New York Mets got hit with steroid guilt today. (The Mets are Better than Sex)
- There are more questions than answers with this report. Also, every picture I see of George Mitchell gets increasingly more frightening. What is it with this guy and close-up, creep shots? (The Diatribe)
- Someone guessed that our boy Adam Dunn was on the Mitchell Report. Well you guessed wrong, son. (LairdNYC)
- How many people are done with card collecting now that the cardboard heroes have been ousted as cheats? (Wax Heaven)
Now that the official list has been anounced; it’s time to react to it. Today as a fan; I feel a great evil has been let out. I feel that some of the dark inner truths that maybe should have always remained secret are never sacred again. What did this Mitchell report accomplish other than generating immense interest and hype? Other than ousting players and shaking a proverbial finger at the sport, what really has changed? It’s not that I don’t agree with these events taking place, because I do.
Honestly the witch hunts are going to continue. Just because some 80 players were named, doesn’t mean that players will stop using or that everyone has been outed in their guilt. I keep thinking about what is going through the minds of certain players and figures of the sport’s past on this evening. Is Clemens sulking in his shame? How about local star Kent Mercker? He’s spent a lifetime being a feel good story from central Ohio. Is that now somewhat tarnished because he was listed in the report? Hal Morris? I watched Morris at Riverfront Stadium as a kid; Hal Morris can’t use steroids or performance enhancing drugs–this guy wore a windbreaker in one of his baseball cards.
I think that you have to go on a case-by-case basis. You can’t simply say that because guys like Mercker were listed on the same report as Barry Bonds, that they’re both intraveneous users of steroids; which is the perception many will get automatically. Also, in the past I’ve brought into question whether or not players like Adrian Beltre and Todd Helton were guilty of using steroids. Just because they were not named, doesn’t mean that they are in fact innocent. Mitchell and his Deca-seeking henchmen simply couldn’t catch everybody; they never will.
-I thought it was interesting that I hit a few guys dead on that no one else did. One in which I give myself a lot of credit for is Todd Hundley. I was the only person I’ve ever heard to name Todd Hundley. Jerry Hairston would fall into this category as well.
-As for guys that aren’t as mainstream that I’m not surprised about? In other words, guys I’m shocked I didn’t think of: Josias Manzanillo, Jack Cust, Denny Neagle, Chuck Knoblauch, Kevin Young, Paul Lo Duca, Gregg Zaun, Mike Lansing, and Glenallen Hill.
-Where the hell were the following guys on the list? Ron Gant, Albert Pujols, Dave Stewart, and of course Helton and Beltre.
-Complete shockers for me? Mercker, Hal Morris, David Justice, Fernando Vina, Brendan Donnelly, Ron Villone and Mike Stanton.
-I thought the list had a bunch of guys that were no-brainers that many failed to mention in leading up to the report: Kevin Brown, Roger Clemens, Andy Pettite, Lenny Dykstra, David Segui, Brian Roberts, Eric Gagne, and Miguel Tejada.
[Entire Mitchell Report]
Interesting thought that I had today:
Anyone think it’s at least a bit suspect that these things occurred today, some 24 hours before the Mitchell Report is released?
- Andy Pettite is inked and back with the Yankees.
- Aaron Rowand signed a 5-year deal with the San Francisco Giants today. Look at those forearms.
- Like clockwork, intraveneous (alleged) steroid user Miguel Tejada is traded to the Houston Astros for 5 players.
In about 12 short hours we’ll know so much more. Full reaction to come right here on Diamond Hoggers. Oh yeah, and if you thought that the Steroid Witchunts end with the release of this report, you’re definitely mislead. They’ll keep coming.
Gary Mathews Jr.
Jerry Hairston Jr.
Cincinnati is talking about trading Homer Bailey and Josh Hamilton to land a 1-year relative wonder in Erik Bedard (Baltimore). I’m not liking this one bit. It’s very hard for me to sit back and watch as the Reds contemplate picking apart pieces of their future for the NOW. Some Reds fans will say that they want to contend now, they’re sick of next year. I can understand that because they’ve been poor for so long. However, if the Reds hang onto guys like Bailey and Josh Hamilton (who we have no idea what their ceiling could be), we are looking at around a 5 year window of contention, instead of the 1 or 2 years we might be able to contend now if they trade away the Hamiltons, Baileys, and Joe Vottos of today.
In short I’ve really had enough of the Reds. If they trade any of these guys they lose my support and the revenue I’d spend on going to watch them. They’ve already screwed up a situation in which they could extend Adam Dunn to a long-term contract and build around him. I’m about thisclose to being an Indians fan forever, because they simply know how to build a team. They lock up their young talent, treasure it, build around it. The Reds don’t have a fucking clue.
ESPN checks in from the Winter Meetings with their ‘Winter Meetings Blog’ over at ESPN.
I’ll be talking about the Reds dangling Josh Hamilton as trade bait.
Also, an epic post about the Mitchell List is upcoming….soon